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ilBaku
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FDAD wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:46 am
How do you usually charge your car?
The first 5-6 months I often used public DC charging. Maybe was 50% DC charging, and 50% AC charging. During the last 10 months I mostly charge at home. When I can I use public AC charging, and I use DC charging only if I need it in a long trip.
Daily home charging is set at 80%, and once a week I charge at 100%. I never go under 20% of the battery in the daily usage

UPDATE*
other info: I have traveled 20,000 km. Considering that the battery should last at least 1000 cycles if not 1500, in theory it should do between 180,000 and 270,000 km before losing 30% of its capacity.
Having already lost almost 8%, if it continued at this rate it would make just 80,000 and it would take 4 years. I'd be within the warranty either way, but I'd rather have a battery that lasted for what it was designed to.

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FDAD
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ilBaku wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:45 pm
FDAD wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:46 am
How do you usually charge your car?
The first 5-6 months I often used public DC charging. Maybe was 50% DC charging, and 50% AC charging. During the last 10 months I mostly charge at home. When I can I use public AC charging, and I use DC charging only if I need it in a long trip.
Daily home charging is set at 80%, and once a week I charge at 100%. I never go under 20% of the battery in the daily usage

UPDATE*
other info: I have traveled 20,000 km. Considering that the battery should last at least 1000 cycles if not 1500, in theory it should do between 180,000 and 270,000 km before losing 30% of its capacity.
Having already lost almost 8%, if it continued at this rate it would make just 80,000 and it would take 4 years. I'd be within the warranty either way, but I'd rather have a battery that lasted for what it was designed to.
Seems like normal use.... when i used Power Check Control for the first time the car had already gone probably the same kms as you and read 98/99% I believe...
I now have 66666 kms and will try to get a new reading from Power Check Control.
Honda E advance [Modern Steel Metallic] 8-) [DELIVERED JULY 2020] - 85 000Kms + ✌️🎂
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I also use PCK and I mainly charge at home with 2kW and keep it generally from 35% to 65% average with occasionally up to 100% maybe 2 times every 3 months. Some short DC charging of about 30% or so when needed. So it means I take care of the battery but I got these results
First reading after 14 months
25000km - 89.3%
29000km - 87.3%
32400km - 87.7%
35700kkm - 87.7%
39700km - 87.0%
43800km - 88.2%
45400km - 88.4%
At 100% last week it showed me 27.6kWh. There was a time it showed me 27.0kWh
So do not be alarmed if it goes down suddenly. It will stop and won't keep going down. How much accurate it is I do not know but it looks it is recovering back now lol.
I do not notice any loss of percentage when the car is not in use so as long as it keeps it charge I won't worry too much. I had a Hybrid for 8 years before and I noticed the battery started loosing SOC while stationary increasingly through the years. And I had to replace the battery after 8 years. It was just a 1kWh battery with no active cooling so I am confident with the Honda battery.
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FDAD wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:22 pm
ilBaku wrote: Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:45 pm
FDAD wrote: Sun Mar 19, 2023 11:46 am
How do you usually charge your car?
The first 5-6 months I often used public DC charging. Maybe was 50% DC charging, and 50% AC charging. During the last 10 months I mostly charge at home. When I can I use public AC charging, and I use DC charging only if I need it in a long trip.
Daily home charging is set at 80%, and once a week I charge at 100%. I never go under 20% of the battery in the daily usage

UPDATE*
other info: I have traveled 20,000 km. Considering that the battery should last at least 1000 cycles if not 1500, in theory it should do between 180,000 and 270,000 km before losing 30% of its capacity.
Having already lost almost 8%, if it continued at this rate it would make just 80,000 and it would take 4 years. I'd be within the warranty either way, but I'd rather have a battery that lasted for what it was designed to.
Seems like normal use.... when i used Power Check Control for the first time the car had already gone probably the same kms as you and read 98/99% I believe...
I now have 66666 kms and will try to get a new reading from Power Check Control.
I forgot I already had a trial licence for testing so it won't let me use it again.
Honda E advance [Modern Steel Metallic] 8-) [DELIVERED JULY 2020] - 85 000Kms + ✌️🎂
ilBaku
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After 8 months I used PCK again and surprisingly the result is 94.9%: 30 months of life and 37800 km. The previous scan dated back to last September: 92.3% and 27600 km, but throughout 2023 the results have always been around 92%. I didn't expect such a recovery of 2.6%. It is practically the same result that PCK detected when I did the first scan after exactly 1 year of the car's life
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ilBaku wrote: Mon May 06, 2024 8:34 pm After 8 months I used PCK again and surprisingly the result is 94.9%: 30 months of life and 37800 km. The previous scan dated back to last September: 92.3% and 27600 km, but throughout 2023 the results have always been around 92%. I didn't expect such a recovery of 2.6%. It is practically the same result that PCK detected when I did the first scan after exactly 1 year of the car's life
Mine has been always between 87% and 88% , up and down on PCK. SOH is just a calculation and I do not think it is reliable. Every app has it's own calculation.
Did you try with Car Scanner app? It tells me 79.82% SOH. Mine has 70000km
With Car scanner it shows you the actual SOC too, not only the one on the dashboard. It has more data. I use it with carlinkit tbox plus and it looks cool on the main screen of the car.
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