V2G (Vehicle-to-Grid) and Battery replacement/upgrading

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A1Giorgio
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Post by A1Giorgio »

Hello everyone, sorry for my English :),

I am considering purchasing this machine, although I am concerned about the future availability of spare parts in case there are problems in the future. I wonder if it will be possible to keep it for years or if some of you keep it with the idea of keeping it for a long time

I have some questions.
I know that the battery is small, but some sites report that the car supports bidirectional charging: V2G (Vehicle-to-Grid), in the future I would also be interested in using it for the home on the days I don't use it, to give energy to the home. Have any of you tried it? Or is there information on how to use this feature with the Honda E? In Switzerland it was used as a test, so how did they enable the function from the "on-board computer"? Are there any settings in the machine for this? (I post the article, -in Italian-: https://www.mobility.ch/it/v2x)

Concerning the battery... given the advancing technology, batteries will be improved, in your opinion... will it be possible in the future to replace it with one with a higher autonomy? (I know it's early, and we almost never talk about these possibilities, we live in a very "disposable" society)

Sorry for my English :), I hope you understood

japle
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Post by japle »

A1Giorgio wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:52 am Hello everyone, sorry for my English :),

I am considering purchasing this machine, although I am concerned about the future availability of spare parts in case there are problems in the future. I wonder if it will be possible to keep it for years or if some of you keep it with the idea of keeping it for a long time

I have some questions.
I know that the battery is small, but some sites report that the car supports bidirectional charging: V2G (Vehicle-to-Grid), in the future I would also be interested in using it for the home on the days I don't use it, to give energy to the home. Have any of you tried it? Or is there information on how to use this feature with the Honda E? In Switzerland it was used as a test, so how did they enable the function from the "on-board computer"? Are there any settings in the machine for this? (I post the article, -in Italian-: https://www.mobility.ch/it/v2x)

Concerning the battery... given the advancing technology, batteries will be improved, in your opinion... will it be possible in the future to replace it with one with a higher autonomy? (I know it's early, and we almost never talk about these possibilities, we live in a very "disposable" society)

Sorry for my English :), I hope you understood
no doubt technologies are advancing, we should be able to change the batteries to a much more advanced version, at least i am hoping too. In terms of V2G, i am not sure about this function, i myself own a japanese version of the E, but i have yet to see a function selection of the V2G, UK versions run on CCS2/TY2, JP versions run on Chademo/TY1. i have to research a bit more bout our E, anyways, keeping a car.... its hard to say, there will always be possibilities that parts run out, new or used, especially when numbers are limited.... but never underestimate the internet....
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hondaero
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Post by hondaero »

hi,

i also looked to this nice feature in the past and tried to understand more. a concret implementation i've found https://sun2wheel.com/en/products/. the product seems available however the price makes you think twice + you need to understand if any potential additional requirements (e.g. grid provider integration, solar panel integration etc.). if somebody tests it and can provide feedback that would be useful.

regarding a better battery, imo the chances are very low if any giving the low investment honda does in ev space in general.

hth,
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Trykpaa
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Post by Trykpaa »

To V2G you need a bi-directional CCS charger at home. That will be eye watering expensive.

EV batteries are very unlikely to be upgradeable, unless the OEM put in the development work (Honda won't) or there are thousands of vehicle with battery issues.
madbiker
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Post by madbiker »

Thanks for posting this hondaaero, had a look as I would be interested in bi-directional at some point, and especially if the Honda e is already setup for it, I knew the Nissan Leaf had it, I could be wrong but it looks like you would need 3 phase AC which is rare on private housing.
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ssbxlan12
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Post by ssbxlan12 »

V2G is a more complicated technology than V2H or V2L, you don't need it
I'm using built-in 220V socket to power my home right now, it works fine, but looking for a possibility to increase it's power from 1.5 kw to at least 2.5
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