You mean you fastened the seatbelt before you left the car / offed it?
I doubt that has an impact when the car is off, although it should do when the car is on. If cleaning with the car on, I do keep the seatbelt fastened so the car is in ready.
Could be worth doing a few times to see if there’s any repeatable pattern there.
Flat battery on a new car with Yuasa battery
I have seen the car charge the 12v if it is flat and you unlock/lock it. This happened after a recent 2 week holiday when I was expecting the car to be flat. I unlocked and locked the car without getting in, then noticed via the bm2 it was charging. The car was left at home (far to useless to get to the airport or take the luggage required lol).
My linked post is the only occurrence 12v charging that we know about as a result of no external stimulus.
My linked post is the only occurrence 12v charging that we know about as a result of no external stimulus.
Sounds like something in the car needs to wake up for the car to check the 12v battery and start charging. Locking/unlocking, probably, triggers this wakeup. I wonder if it can be triggered automatically with a preconditioning or something. I assume you can unlock/lock the car via the app, but many of us don't have the luxury.
Posted this a couple of years ago:
"I usually trickle the 12V battery once a week or fortnight since do not do many that trips for the main battery to recharge it. I usually use one of those simple led indicators to see what state it is in and it never is full but always shows middle led as "needs charging" but never the low led.
I had not used the car for nearly three weeks since in the process of selling my other one so thought I'd better charge the battery.
Coming to the car the door handles did not pop out, so I had to unlock via the key and not sure but I don't think all the dash came up straight away.
Then it did and showed 76% on the main battery.
Opened the bonnet and checked the 12V and the top led of "fully charged" lit. I had never seen this before from cold, only immediately after charging or a longer trip.
I checked with a multimeter and the battery was 14.2V accompanied by a humming from the system."
So it looks like the HV can top up the 12V in certain circumstances.
"I usually trickle the 12V battery once a week or fortnight since do not do many that trips for the main battery to recharge it. I usually use one of those simple led indicators to see what state it is in and it never is full but always shows middle led as "needs charging" but never the low led.
I had not used the car for nearly three weeks since in the process of selling my other one so thought I'd better charge the battery.
Coming to the car the door handles did not pop out, so I had to unlock via the key and not sure but I don't think all the dash came up straight away.
Then it did and showed 76% on the main battery.
Opened the bonnet and checked the 12V and the top led of "fully charged" lit. I had never seen this before from cold, only immediately after charging or a longer trip.
I checked with a multimeter and the battery was 14.2V accompanied by a humming from the system."
So it looks like the HV can top up the 12V in certain circumstances.
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Bought the E second hand @ dealer when it whas 3 years
Original battery still in it.
Drove it 1 year with no problems
bought a cigarette usb charger with volt display .
After a month of the cigarette volt reader the cars 12v battery went flat.
I noticed that when i drove the car that always 14,4 whas on the reader to become only 12,4 after 20-30 minutes.
To start over again after 10 min or @a new start.
So i think the 12 v battery whas at his end of life en couldnt keep his charge so good.
Did not find a yuasa battery in the local store so i picked up the best brand that whas availlable ,a bosh s4 021 (i know
)
Took a day or 2 driving constant 14,4 charging.
Then eventually when reading 12,4-5 v it can take 1 or 2 full drive to see 14,4v charging again by start up.
when i see the battery cant hold 12,4 charge for a little period i am planning to buy a new one.
Ow i did not see a difference in charging with seat belt plugged in or not
Original battery still in it.
Drove it 1 year with no problems
bought a cigarette usb charger with volt display .
After a month of the cigarette volt reader the cars 12v battery went flat.
I noticed that when i drove the car that always 14,4 whas on the reader to become only 12,4 after 20-30 minutes.
To start over again after 10 min or @a new start.
So i think the 12 v battery whas at his end of life en couldnt keep his charge so good.
Did not find a yuasa battery in the local store so i picked up the best brand that whas availlable ,a bosh s4 021 (i know
Took a day or 2 driving constant 14,4 charging.
Then eventually when reading 12,4-5 v it can take 1 or 2 full drive to see 14,4v charging again by start up.
when i see the battery cant hold 12,4 charge for a little period i am planning to buy a new one.
Ow i did not see a difference in charging with seat belt plugged in or not
A further update. Whilst I’ve not had another flat Yuasa since I previously posted, the BM2 monitor I use suggests both voltage and state of charge drop off quite quickly, even after a relatively long run. It’s feasible I don’t drive my car for 5 days, by which time BM2 will be reporting mid teens SOC and just above 12v. I’ve no idea how accurate this is.
Not wanting to get caught out again, I’ve bought a 053 AGM battery to test. Size wise was a perfect fit. I’m not a battery expert, but whilst mainly used for start stop technology, AGM apparently can be beneficial in cars used for shorter journeys, which is a category I guess I fall into.
Keen to see how it goes. I installed it a couple of days ago but initial results are a far steadier voltage chart on BM2. Fingers crossed.
Not wanting to get caught out again, I’ve bought a 053 AGM battery to test. Size wise was a perfect fit. I’m not a battery expert, but whilst mainly used for start stop technology, AGM apparently can be beneficial in cars used for shorter journeys, which is a category I guess I fall into.
Keen to see how it goes. I installed it a couple of days ago but initial results are a far steadier voltage chart on BM2. Fingers crossed.
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MrM93 - I'm interested in how you get on with the AGM battery. I felt our 2020 eAdvance was on borrowed time with it's original Panasonic so last Spring replaced it with a 'Stop Start' lead acid rather than the oft quoted Yuasa. Like you we regularly do lots of short trips so such batteries should be a better bet - especially since the nature of the e's charging means the 12v battery is rarely charged to 100%.
So far, so good but we are talking about a battery that's only 9-10 months or so old.
So far, so good but we are talking about a battery that's only 9-10 months or so old.
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