Driving Honda E on the Highway

[chmnda]

Hi All, I am keen to get a Honda E and I have been trying to browse here to fully understand the characteristics of the Honda E. But I cannot really find much information regarding the things I will want to ask.
I know Honda E is made as a city urban car but for me, I will need to drive long distances, at around (180-200KM) almost every 3 weeks. Those long distances will be on the highway most of the time (at the speed of 110km/h), however sometimes the road might jam up quite badly if there is accident along the way. I know Honda E have averaged out around 100 miles, which is around 160KM for a full charge.

Just want to check on some stuffs:
- if I am travelling at the speed of 110km/h, what will be the range for full charge be?
- and how long will the Honda E take to charge, if I just want another 40-50KM more
(because time is a factor and I need to make it to the location at the shortest time spend, so I cannot wait there for half an hour to get it 80% charged)
- and if I am facing a traffic jam, which I need to move slowly and will have multiple start stop kind of scenario, how much will it affect the energy draining

I really hope someone can help me answer all this so I can really make a concrete decision in getting the honda E because for my country, this car is not a small investment too

[MaXPainT]

Hello and welcome

I do mixed driving 95km/h and city driving. In this mode I get around 250km in summer and around 200km in winter.

If you are experiencing below freezing temperatures in winter I am afraid the E won't cut it for you. I don't believe it will be able to do 200km at that speed in winter. My estimation with that speed would be 200km summer and 150km winter. Since diving it to 0% might introduce some range anxitiety, I would not count on calculations where you need 200km and the car can do 200km so you will make it. I would not risk it unless you are not travelling the whole distance at that speed.

The E can charge at maximum of 50kw/h. Let say the battery is 30kwh. 30 minutes will give you around 25kwh. More like 20 with all the loses. Based on that estimation, 10 minutes would give you around 6,5kwh. With an average consumption of 15kwh/100km you are looking at around 30-40km per 10min best case scenario. Since you are planning to do 110km/h speeds, your consumption will be closer to 20kwh/100km so you will get closer to 25km per 10min. Keep in mind that this is best case scenario, more than likely that you will have to charge longer than that.

Any slow down will only benefit the range of the E. Unless you do complete stops with turning the car off and then preheating the battery again (not a traffic jam scenario). Therefore, any traffic jam increases your chances of reaching the destination (unless you are the reason of the jam ^^)

I can see only two options how you can make it work:
1. Drive slower. Like 90-100 instead of 110;
2. Rent a car for the occasions when you need to do the long commute. The money you save on gas should cover the rent cost.

[FDAD]

Hi All, I am keen to get a Honda E and I have been trying to browse here to fully understand the characteristics of the Honda E. But I cannot really find much information regarding the things I will want to ask.
I know Honda E is made as a city urban car but for me, I will need to drive long distances, at around (180-200KM) almost every 3 weeks. Those long distances will be on the highway most of the time (at the speed of 110km/h), however sometimes the road might jam up quite badly if there is accident along the way. I know Honda E have averaged out around 100 miles, which is around 160KM for a full charge.

Just want to check on some stuffs:
- if I am travelling at the speed of 110km/h, what will be the range for full charge be?
- and how long will the Honda E take to charge, if I just want another 40-50KM more
(because time is a factor and I need to make it to the location at the shortest time spend, so I cannot wait there for half an hour to get it 80% charged)
- and if I am facing a traffic jam, which I need to move slowly and will have multiple start stop kind of scenario, how much will it affect the energy draining

I really hope someone can help me answer all this so I can really make a concrete decision in getting the honda E because for my country, this car is not a small investment too

You want range go slower. Thats the fastest way.

At 110km/h expect 120kms range (within the 20% to 80% mark) at 90km/h you could get 160kms range
A 15/20m stop usually gets me 14kW charge (in a 50kW charger), the battery having 28kW capacity means half the charge/range you'd get at the speed you were going previously.

I'm accounting for a flat road and a mild wind.
I've gotten much more range and much less with varying conditions... you're driving habits will set the pace.

[chmnda]

That's quite insightful and thank you both for the answers. Does anyone have any form of experience also, for example driving at highway at 100-110kmh and what is the range you all get for that long distance. I am staying at all time summer country so there is no heating or cold weather, usually I will just on the AC and all. I really wish to get this car but the usual long trips with the 15-20 mins wait for charging need me to consider it carefully. because if I get the honda e, there is no turning back, so am studying every thing I can here before making the decision

[EEEE]

- if I am travelling at the speed of 110km/h, what will be the range for full charge be?

how long is a piece of string? if its generally 20 degrees C or more outside constantly , you will get a good mileage/range. Depends on your tyres too, 17 inch and wide, or 16inch and thinner? 17s will go less, 16s will go more.

- and how long will the Honda E take to charge, if I just want another 40-50KM more
Depends how flat it is. If you are quite flat when you charge, the charge rate will start off slowly. I have rarely done much DC rapid charging, but others will attest you will not get 50kw ever, and never 40kw from 0%. Perhaps from 20% and up it will be as fast as possible (anyone seen more than 40kw sustained?) To get an extra 50km, you need 10kwh delivered into the battery roughly. At a charge speed of 20kw, thats 30mins, 30kw would be 20mins, and 40kw best case scenario you'd be looking at 15mins. It takes some planning to hit the right chargers at the right point of the journey.

(because time is a factor and I need to make it to the location at the shortest time spend, so I cannot wait there for half an hour to get it 80% charged)
This probably isnt the car for you. Chargers occasionally do not work, or there is a queue at busy times (like holidays/weekends, perhaps the times you intend to make your 3weekly trip to family/friends?).

- and if I am facing a traffic jam, which I need to move slowly and will have multiple start stop kind of scenario, how much will it affect the energy draining
Generally traffic jams are your friend. I find that even with start stop, the lower average speed of the whole journey tends to improve the efficiency compared to driving at 70mph...

I really hope someone can help me answer all this so I can really make a concrete decision in getting the honda E because for my country, this car is not a small investment too
If you need to do long journeys, and you have time constraints, and you 'cannot wait 30 mins' , then perhaps another car is more suitable. If i had to make a 160km journey, the last car i would chose of mine is the e. Your passengers will hate you as well if you have any, so factor in that it is not just your time you are wasting.

The e is cool, but its just limited. If you don't have other people to worry about and you have no time constraints, go for it.

[5thcivic]

The E is the best Honda I've had period, no problems so far, and a very cool car, but it is just not a long range car, and even less in Winter. I use it for local trips where it's not worth warming up the hybrid Jazz (600 miles on a tank!). I don't think a cool car is cool anymore if you are worried about range anxiety and charge points all the time. Just my pennies worth.

[FDAD]

I have rarely done much DC rapid charging, but others will attest you will not get 50kw ever, and never 40kw from 0%. Perhaps from 20% and up it will be as fast as possible (anyone seen more than 40kw sustained?)

Yes, you will, 54kW was the fastest charge I've gotten but plenty over 45kw.
I won't drop here all my charges but 2 will get you the idea.

[EEEE]

You do have the benefit of warmer weather in Portugal!

I should rephrase, I've never seen more than 40kw charge rate in the UK lol.

[Mailforkev]

I hate to say it but if you have to do regular 200km motorway drives then the e might not be the best option for you.

I love my e but I would probably be changing it if that became my routine.

[ilBaku]

That's quite insightful and thank you both for the answers. Does anyone have any form of experience also, for example driving at highway at 100-110kmh and what is the range you all get for that long distance. I am staying at all time summer country so there is no heating or cold weather, usually I will just on the AC and all. I really wish to get this car but the usual long trips with the 15-20 mins wait for charging need me to consider it carefully. because if I get the honda e, there is no turning back, so am studying every thing I can here before making the decision

I managed to drive 140 km several times, but you have to be absolutely sure to find a free and working charging station because to do them you arrive with the battery below 10%